Some things are better in bed.

Like our pillows and our favourite pair of fellow queenage podcasters!

We're talking about Erin Davis & Lisa Brandt of Gracefully & Frankly — two smart, sassy, and sensational 60-somethings who prove that age isn’t just a number, it’s a superpower. Their honest chats and laugh-out-loud moments are the perfect nightcap before you drift off on your enVy® Pillow.

So align your spine, press play, and get comfy — because life (and conversation) really does get better in bed.